Hey there! Could you introduce
yourselves? Who are the people behind Vin de Mia Trix?
Serge: Hails! We are Vin de Mia Trix from Kiev , Ukraine
You have released your
first EP titled “El Sueño de la Razon Produce
Monstruos” (quite a lengthy title!) on Satanarsa Records in 2010. How mature
was this work, and how important was it for you to have it released?
Alex: Of course, judging from today’s perspective this EP feels quite
raw, although that’s exactly what makes it interesting. I think it will be
worth listening to even in 10 years. At the time, obviously, it was an
extremely important step for us. Many Ukrainian bands play lots of live shows,
but don’t record anything. We, on the other hand, have always wanted to be
known for our releases.
Andrew: You surely know the heavyweights, such as Autumnia. Among
younger bands I’d like to mention our label-mates Odradek Room, also fond of
mixing genres and creating very interesting and multi-faceted music; and our
friends Suffer Yourself, who are one of the heaviest and darkest bands on
Ukrainian scene.
Serge: I think that Embrace of Silence and Torrens Coscientium also
deserve mentioning.
Satanarsa Records is a
totally underground label with little relation to outside world and scene. Can
you say it helped Vin de Mia Trix in any way to become better known?
Alex: Despite Satanarsa being a very underground label, a couple dozens
of people from all over the world learned about our existence thanks to this
EP. Doom-metal.com, particularly, published a favorable review, attracting
certain amount of attention to that release.
Serge: When we played at Moscow Doom Festival this spring, one of the
listeners from Saint Petersburg
Andrew: We were also quite amazed when we met an American who was highly
interested in all releases specifically from Satanarsa’s catalogue. This shows
that bands and labels even from the deepest underground have their audience.
Judging by festivals
like Doom Over Kiev or Moscow
Andrew: I was somewhat surprised when I learned that many bands from
this part of the world are quite favored by the western audience. There are
certain people who think that Russia
and Ukraine Europe .
Serge: I can’t really say that any kind of metal (especially doom) is
really popular in our country. Doom really is a kind of genre that was never
intended to be popular.
This year saw a
release of Vin de Mia Trix’s first full-length, “Once Hidden From Sight”. I
know that it was released simultaneously by two labels – Solitude Productions
from Russia and Hypnotic
Dirge Records from Canada
Andrew: That’s right, our album has become a first co-release between
these two labels. We have spent a long time looking for a label to publish our
first album. HDR has attracted our attention from the very beginning, so it was
one of the first labels to which we’ve sent promos. We had to wait a few
excruciating months, but when Nick, the guy behind HDR, has finally sorted
everything out and offered to release the album, it felt just fantastic. A
co-release with Solitude Prod. was also his idea – HDR has been an official Solitude’s
distributor in both Americas
Alex: In our case it’s impossible to move to something less popular -
we’re already at the very edge! But if you mean deviating from death/doom
canons, you can already hear this on Once Hidden From Sight - there are bits of
black metal, progressive, blues, and some other styles scattered all over the
record. And we plan to incorporate more such elements into our music in the
future - it’s boring to play the same stuff all the time.
Serge: We were never forcing ourselves into any genre boundaries. But I
don’t think our sound will change radically - a smooth evolution is more
likely. We listen to lots of different music, and it influences and inspires
us.
Andrew: I’ve noticed that we
rarely get compared to a same band twice. Thank you for mentioning Empyrium, it
is an unusual, but a flattering association. Our new material, which we plan to
start recording next year, will be even more diverse and contain more elements
and influences from non-doom styles - although the doom foundation will also
become more crushing and powerful.
Andrew: We were never adding more elements just for the sake of it. Each
of these new songs was either written during a sudden outburst of inspiration,
or carefully composed and polished over the years, even before the band itself
was formed. So I am sure that every element of these tracks is in its own
place.
Which song on Once
Hidden From Sight stands out among the others, in your opinion?
Alex: I think that it’s best to listen to the album as a whole,
experiencing its whole range of feeling and emotions. It’s not a good idea to
tear particular songs out of the context. But my personal favorites are Nowhere
is Here and matr.
Serge: I agree that matr is probably our most emotionally overwhelming
track.
This last song’s title
is in Sanskrit, if I’m not mistaken. What does it mean and what’s this song
about?
Alex: You are right, it’s Sanskrit. This word translates as “mother”. It
is the most enigmatic of our songs, both musically and lyrically, and we can’t
be completely sure about its meaning ourselves. It is a submersion into
pre-conscious state, the source of all poetry. Sanskrit was chosen to stress
the age of this word and the eternity of a concept it describes. There’s no use
in searching for definite meanings here, because in the mother’s womb the world
is not yet divided into object and subject, black and white.
Can you describe a
listener who could be potentially interested in Vin de Mia Trix’ music? Is it
correct to talk about “educating” the listeners through complex music, lyrics,
concepts? Or is it enough to just embrace the well-established genre boundaries
and play metal like the founding fathers did?
Alex: Our listener is a music lover who doesn’t hold any genre
prejudices or stereotypes, who appreciates the complexity of emotions expressed
by the music and, therefore, the complexity of music itself. We have already
noticed that our most devoted listeners are the people who are interested, in all senses of the word. I
doubt that we could really “educate” someone (this certainly is not our goal),
but it’s true that our music is directed at the prepared listeners.
And I don’t agree that the great bands just played metal. They’ve
reached this status exactly because they created their own genres, not
hesitating to experiment and push the boundaries. Be it Black Sabbath, My Dying
Bride or Paradise Lost - they all started as brave and bold novators, and only
then the waves of copycat followers formed the genre’s stereotypes and
templates. Every time I listen to the classic bands’ iconic albums I feel that
they’re still several feet ahead of most contemporary bands.
Alex: I think we all like doom for its slow tempo, specific emotions and
incredible flexibility of the genre which easily incorporates the outside
elements. Doom metal has always been comprised of several quite different
styles. So those vague boundaries that do exist in this genre have always been
acceptable for us and nothing stopped us from adding whatever we want to our
music. In other words, we play music
first, doom metal second.
Who could you name
your “teachers” in doom metal? And are there any Ukrainian or Russian names in
this list?
Serge: Probably it’s My Dying Bride, Anathema, Esoteric, Evoken, Ahab,
Urna, Ataraxie. These bands have formed my taste in doom. Unfortunately, there
are very few good bands in Russia and Ukraine. I was very impressed by live
performance of Comatose Vigil. As of Ukrainian bands, Autumnia is the most
successful and interesting one.
Alex: I could add Mournful Congregation and early Katatonia and Opeth to
this list. All these bands have melancholic mood and acoustic interludes in
their songs, which we really appreciate, and they have been using non-standard
song structures (unlike 90% of doom songs that consist of 3-4 riffs played over
and over again). We always aimed at being independent from Ukrainian or Russian
scene - a good band in any genre, especially doom, is a rare treasure, and you
have to search all over the world to find it.
Igor: For me it’s definitely Evoken and Skepticism. But on the other
hand, as the guys already said, doom can be a mix of various styles and genres
of music. Even classical music or funk can suggest you some interesting moves
that can be useful in doom.
Well said! I wish you
good luck in your further creative efforts. See you! And… hey, what does the
name Vin de Mia Trix mean?
Serge: Let it remain a sort of secret to your readers! ;-)
Interview by Aleksey Evdokimov
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